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Improvement - explicitly display offcut length

Freda

Posted on November 17, 2022

Hi

I would like you to explicitly display the length of the offcut on the cutting list for dimensional timber - i.e. exactly the same as you already do for each "real" piece cut from the dimensional piece.

The reason for my wanting this is that I sometimes want to trim the board with my hand saw and that means that sometimes I want to measure off the RHS of the board.  I can't do this without the offcut length.

Note: at present, I print the cutting list, then hover the mouse over the offcut and then copy that offcut length to the printed document - a bit of a PITA.   Much easier for it to be there in the first place.

Thanks for a really helpful product

Martin Mueller

Posted on November 17, 2022

Hi,

It does not matter if you start measuring from the RHS (right hand side) or the LHS (left hand side). We assume that the board does not know that it is being cut from one end or the other.

If the display bothers you, you may use the option Cutting Diagram -> Display -> Position of the Origin and set it to From the right. The display of the entire bar will then flow from the upper right to the lower left as indicated by the 3 dots next to the part designation.
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Boris Beaulant

Posted on November 19, 2022

Hi Freda,

The leftover length is already displayed on dimensional cutting diagram.
Regards

Freda

Posted on November 22, 2022

I apologise for not being more explicit in the title, which should read "always explicitly display offcut length"

1.  @Boris Beaulant.  True, it does *sometimes* display the offcut length.  I believe the coder has calculated a display length (considering font size, spacing etc) for the offcut value and if it does not fit, then it is not displayed.

2.  @Martin Mueller.  It certainly does matter.  In my cases where the offcut length is not displayed and I look at the diagram on the RHS, I have a known trim amount and an unknown offcut.  How am I supposed to cut the board from the RHS with the offcut length unknown.  This is a really simple request - you display it some of the time; I am asking you to display it all of the time.  And, to be clear, I am not suggesting where you display the currently not displayed length.  For example, you could place it after the board length (eg 2400mm - offcut 17mm) but coding and aesthetics are your department; user requirements are mine.  :-)

Finally, I don't think the origin is the issue.  It all depends on the number and lengths of the individual pieces where I trim a board into a more manageable length.  Sometimes it is easier measuring from the left, sometimes the right.

Boris Beaulant

Posted on November 22, 2022

Hi,

Could you please send us a screen capture where the offcut dimension is hidden ?

How am I supposed to cut the board from the RHS with the offcut length unknown. 
Just ignore it and start with the first right part length. Naturally the offcut will be moved to the left side.


Freda

Posted on November 23, 2022

@Boris

1.  Sure - see attached pictures
2.  I could do that although I think you should measure the length of the right hand piece + the trim, which you would then cut to the correct size (i.e. - trim); the waste would continue to propagate left

Boris Beaulant

Posted on November 24, 2022

Hi Freda,

1. You can "opimize" the place needed to display dimensions by removing the ".0 mm". More infos here : https://opencollective.com/lairdubois-opencutlist-sketchup-extension/conversations/exclusion-of-numerical-units-gplbj3qb

2. You don't need to know the leftover size to start cut on right side. Just start with the first right part length, and second part length, etc ... and at the end of the left side the leftover will appear !
It's quite dangerous to start to cut leftover...

Else, just configure OpenCutList to draw part on the right side.


In the next release, smaller dimension will be more visible. But if there's no room, there's no room. And I think that there's no need to add this information in an other place in the diagram. Because this data is not important enough to clutter up the layout.

Freda

Posted on November 26, 2022

Thanks for your speedy replies and insights.

Really useful product.

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